Suicide is a sin like any other that requires the Savior's blood to wash clean. Any person, under the right circumstances can commit murder. Any person faced with depression, regret, despair can likewise take their life. Where a person ends up always comes back to the Son of God and the embrace of His saving grace, not the last sin they committed.
My brother killed himself in 1985. I went through the questions you presented and arrived at the same place. i think your presentation of this Bible Study was dead center x-ring. Thanks Keith.
"Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God." 1 Cor. 4:5.
I have lost enough to this old enemy, and want to see everything possible done to prevent any more losses. At the same time, not all suicides are actually that. We simply don't have enough evidence on which to make a final judgment.
Thank you very much for this post. I retired after 30 years in law enforcement and I’m a military veteran. I am currently a law enforcement chaplain and, in this capacity, I have assisted in post-suicide incidents several times, some involving law enforcement personnel and military veterans. Additionally, I have lost my brother, stepfather, and a cousin to suicide. The question of a person’s eternity comes up quite often. I appreciate the work you put into this.
Amen brother. I needed this. I have seen too many of my brothers take their lives. I have seen too many suicides in my life. As a paramedic and RN I have seen the devestation this world lays out.
Amen brother. Thank you for this study. I have seen too many of my brothers take their lives. As a paramedic and an RN I have seen firsthand the devestation this world hands out. I have struggled with it for over 30 years. This helps to process these events. I appreciate what you do. Thank you so much.
Great study Brother Keith. Someone close to me, a combat veteran and a cop, came close to this, but a good Christian counselor at the VA helped him and he lives today serving other vets as an LCSW at the same VA.
Thank you. 🙏🏼 💔😭✝️ This was one of the most important things I have ever read and you gave me a tremendous amount of peace. Suicide is hard enough to cope with, without being told that my brothers and sisters are in eternal hell. I've always believed that myself because it was taught to me from RC church as a child.
Another takeaway for me is to constantly go to God's Word to see what God says about it, and to not ever just take what the church and what people say as fact. More and more I'm starting to see that things that I was taught as being "of God," absolutely are not.
Thank you for your tremendous honesty, for bringing this out into the Light because it shouldn't be shameful and buried, and for all of us reading this to know that we are certainly not alone in how much this hurts and affects us.
God bless you all, and be loved and healed in Jesus Name.
First: you write well, and this message is needed to be heard by many. Thank you.
Second: Do you write for the goal of delivering solid messages or for the hope of a monetary gain? The immediate plea for one to subscribe to a paid subscription almost steered me away. The strength of the message kept me reading in spite of the several requests for a paid subscription.
I am not expecting you to give away gratis the time spent writing. Just asking for an introspection of motive.
Fair question. My goal is to save Warriors. This is always free. I do hope the people that can pay do to help cover the costs of putting this together and the time that takes to make it happen. But it is definitely not expected.
The first time I heard the message like you said here was from a retired Sheriff detective from LA county. Who was my elder at a Calvary Chaple decades ago. Although I respected him highly, I didn't tell him how much better I felt because of his teaching. My father had taken his own life when I was a young man. My father was a doctor and a psychiatrist. I later began to cherish those memories. May God bless your service to first responders and their loved ones.
Thank you Brother, and God Bless you, even more that he has. Wonderful sermon. My Grandfather took his life when I was 17 and it has always weighed heavy on me. Mostly because I couldn't imagine the pain and despondent feelings that led to that action. Later, burdened by depression and financial stress, I worked out a plan to end the pain. Only my love for my wife and children, imagining the impact and grief of my action, saved my life. I shared this dreadful plan to my wife that evening, and through medical and professional help (NLP) I felt the immense love of the Savior and my worth in his eyes. I guess you could say I was born again, even though I had always believed, and and it felt like floating in a cloud. I never looked back, and yet PTSD still trips me up a bit. But His grace is always picking me up, dusting me off, and sending me forward with a warm embrace. Thanks for all your efforts in so many arenas!
Suicide is a sin like any other that requires the Savior's blood to wash clean. Any person, under the right circumstances can commit murder. Any person faced with depression, regret, despair can likewise take their life. Where a person ends up always comes back to the Son of God and the embrace of His saving grace, not the last sin they committed.
My brother killed himself in 1985. I went through the questions you presented and arrived at the same place. i think your presentation of this Bible Study was dead center x-ring. Thanks Keith.
"Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God." 1 Cor. 4:5.
I have lost enough to this old enemy, and want to see everything possible done to prevent any more losses. At the same time, not all suicides are actually that. We simply don't have enough evidence on which to make a final judgment.
Im not a biblical scholar but my opinion would be if the individual
Is in Christ at the time of taking their own life And since
Being in Christ, you are covered.
By the atoning. sacrifice
Of Jesus Christ on the cross. That's sin, should be covered
By Christ's sacrifice
For our sin.
And as far as repentance, goes
Most, if not all
are suffering daily,our loving savior will recognize that.
I have nothing to back any of this up. Except for my relationship with Jesus Christ.
Who gave his life for ours. Love one another as I have loved you said our Savior. My prayer for anyone who is suffering because of suicide
In their family, or friend group
Is that you may find peace in Jesus Christ.
Thank you very much for this post. I retired after 30 years in law enforcement and I’m a military veteran. I am currently a law enforcement chaplain and, in this capacity, I have assisted in post-suicide incidents several times, some involving law enforcement personnel and military veterans. Additionally, I have lost my brother, stepfather, and a cousin to suicide. The question of a person’s eternity comes up quite often. I appreciate the work you put into this.
Amen brother. I needed this. I have seen too many of my brothers take their lives. I have seen too many suicides in my life. As a paramedic and RN I have seen the devestation this world lays out.
Amen brother. Thank you for this study. I have seen too many of my brothers take their lives. As a paramedic and an RN I have seen firsthand the devestation this world hands out. I have struggled with it for over 30 years. This helps to process these events. I appreciate what you do. Thank you so much.
Great study Brother Keith. Someone close to me, a combat veteran and a cop, came close to this, but a good Christian counselor at the VA helped him and he lives today serving other vets as an LCSW at the same VA.
Thank you. 🙏🏼 💔😭✝️ This was one of the most important things I have ever read and you gave me a tremendous amount of peace. Suicide is hard enough to cope with, without being told that my brothers and sisters are in eternal hell. I've always believed that myself because it was taught to me from RC church as a child.
Another takeaway for me is to constantly go to God's Word to see what God says about it, and to not ever just take what the church and what people say as fact. More and more I'm starting to see that things that I was taught as being "of God," absolutely are not.
Thank you for your tremendous honesty, for bringing this out into the Light because it shouldn't be shameful and buried, and for all of us reading this to know that we are certainly not alone in how much this hurts and affects us.
God bless you all, and be loved and healed in Jesus Name.
First: you write well, and this message is needed to be heard by many. Thank you.
Second: Do you write for the goal of delivering solid messages or for the hope of a monetary gain? The immediate plea for one to subscribe to a paid subscription almost steered me away. The strength of the message kept me reading in spite of the several requests for a paid subscription.
I am not expecting you to give away gratis the time spent writing. Just asking for an introspection of motive.
Again, thank you for a timely well-written essay.
Fair question. My goal is to save Warriors. This is always free. I do hope the people that can pay do to help cover the costs of putting this together and the time that takes to make it happen. But it is definitely not expected.
The first time I heard the message like you said here was from a retired Sheriff detective from LA county. Who was my elder at a Calvary Chaple decades ago. Although I respected him highly, I didn't tell him how much better I felt because of his teaching. My father had taken his own life when I was a young man. My father was a doctor and a psychiatrist. I later began to cherish those memories. May God bless your service to first responders and their loved ones.
Thank you Brother, and God Bless you, even more that he has. Wonderful sermon. My Grandfather took his life when I was 17 and it has always weighed heavy on me. Mostly because I couldn't imagine the pain and despondent feelings that led to that action. Later, burdened by depression and financial stress, I worked out a plan to end the pain. Only my love for my wife and children, imagining the impact and grief of my action, saved my life. I shared this dreadful plan to my wife that evening, and through medical and professional help (NLP) I felt the immense love of the Savior and my worth in his eyes. I guess you could say I was born again, even though I had always believed, and and it felt like floating in a cloud. I never looked back, and yet PTSD still trips me up a bit. But His grace is always picking me up, dusting me off, and sending me forward with a warm embrace. Thanks for all your efforts in so many arenas!